FALLEN ANGELS 1840 (BEEBE)

Our attention has been called to the subject of the "angels which kept not their first estate," &c., by Brother Gaines, of Kentucky, who desires our views on Jude 6, and 2 Peter ii. 4. 

SUBSTITUTING CALVIN OR CALVINISM FOR GOD (SANTAMARIA)

[This is what happens when men are adored more than God - ed.]

CORRESPONDENCE WITH PASTOR G. REGARDING THE DEITY OF CHRIST (ODell) 5/5

FIFTH LETTER TO PASTOR G. 

CORRESPONDENCE WITH PASTOR G. REGARDING THE DEITY OF CHRIST (ODell) 3-4/5

 

FOURTH LETTER TO PASTOR G. 

MISSIONARY PRIESTCRAFT - NO PAY, NO PREACHER

Pay me well,
And I'll help save your souls from hell;
Or, like the swan.
When winter is coming on,
I to wanner climes must go,
For God has call'd me there to preach, 

I will let you know;
And before I on my journey wag, 

I must the reason Let you know, it is because I do
not get the bag.
For to work I am too grand
Then in the pulpit I will take my stand.
And there he speaks with artful guile,
The reason is he wants his pot his neighbor's
meat to boil.
His table richly clad and spread.
With the honest delver's bread;
And whether he wears coat or gown,
His preaching is for money down.
But money down men cannot always pay,
Then promises from church or boards will do a 

future day
Pray at this do not start,
For if I beg for you I must share a part,
And if I choose to foreign climes to go,
Whether God has call'd me there or no,
Money in my bag I most have,
To help me the people's souls to save.
Tho' Peter thro' Jewish cities took his tour,
And Paul the Asiatic coast did scour;
Yet for the bag these never went,
For God had these .apostles, sent.
Yet Judas, never call'd of God, 

to the eleven himself did join,
And this you know was bad, and thus his theft in
manner clandestine.
His bargain, sale trade, and death, proves he went
for the bag.
So men who hire out themselves to teach,
Prove to all around that it is for the bag they
preach
Judas the bag did carry, we are told,
And it was this that kept him in the, fold;
But when greater gain of others he could make,
He did the Saviour and his cause and his people
all forsake.
So let it be once to the Old Baptist, churches told,
That in my esteem the missionaries have the Old
Baptist cause for money sold;
And because they can by missions more money
make,
Therefore they do the Old Baptist cause and their
brethren all forsake.
For had not the mission scheme of money invented
been,  the hireling for to pay,

The United Baptist churches would have remained to this day.

Primitive Baptist 

November 1841

CORRESPONDENCE WITH PASTOR G. REGARDING THE DEITY OF CHRIST (ODell) 2/4

SECOND LETTER TO PASTOR G. 

From: Dan Odell

Subject: Redacted answer to a Primitive Baptist minister Bro. G. It came to me this morning early, that a portion of what I would share with you as a setup for a brief exposition of Matt. 3:15-17, was already available to me in the form of a letter addressed to a Primitive Baptist minister; Who, notwithstanding the Christ-exalting lessons he was enjoying, picked up on an unfamiliar sound from them that led him to believe, I might be “unorthodox” respecting the Deity of Christ and the “Godhead” as he has understood it for over 50 years. Which view determined who he would or would not fellowship with. 

This has to do with what I believe is the single greatest cause of confusion regarding a Biblical view of the Divine Essence. Which is the failure to make the simple distinction between the Incomprehensible and Invisible Essence and the OPERATIONAL REVELATION of the Essence as displayed in creation, redemption, and illumination. Failure to make this clear is huge in our understanding. Hence, what was common among our Old School (Christ taught) forefathers, is uncommon, foreign, disregarded, and viewed as heretical by most today. May this suffice for now as a stepping stone, so to speak. Please see the following letter below: 

With the highest regards, 

Dan O’Dell, S.S. with a reason to hope if not deceived. 
Weslaco, TX. 4.16.2024 

From: Dan ODell Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 4:14 PM

 To: Pastor G. 

Subject: RE: The Pre-existence and Manhood of Christ. 

Brother R. It is good to know that unlike most Trinitarians you do not believe in a generated Son of God, much less delegated as such. With respect to the Tri-PERSONALITY of God…it appears that the relative properties of the Divine Being identified as Father, Son, and Spirit have more to do with the OPERATIONS OF GOD than the ESSENCE of God. 

The Divine Essence is, in the end, incomprehensible to any creature. Therefore, for a creature to dare to speak authoritatively on the MODE of existence of the incomprehensible God, is the utmost of folly. I am sure you would agree with this statement: That which is to be known of a Trinity in God (operationally considered) is revealed in the PERSONATOR of God…the Man-Christ Jesus, both human and Divine. For example: if God is revealed as the first cause of all things, as the cause of the manhood of Christ, or author of our spirits, he is properly called Father. This is a relative term relating to an offspring or an issue. If God is revealed in the labor of His works, as in creation or redemption, He is properly identified as the Word or Son. 

The term word, or Son, is also a relative term relating to a speaker, something spoken, and something spoken to. The Word proceeding was the human nature of Christ (John 1:14), the speaker was God (Gen. 1:3) and when He speaks to us by His Son or Word, we are the things spoken to. So, God expresses His will and reveals His power in and by His Word; in which He goes forth in the outworking of His eternal purposes, speaking all things into existence by the Word of His power and so “all things consist” (are held together) in that same Word. If God is to be revealed as an invisible Spirit, to quicken dead souls to life and dwell in His people, and not be a corporeal substance, but a spiritual indwelling, He is revealed as the Holy Ghost. To me, the triune way God is revealed seems rather to be in relation to the triple work in which he is revealed, i.e. Creation, Redemption, and illumination, and not in a trinity of individually distinct and separate Persons/Beings subsisting in what was understood by our Old School Baptist forefathers, as a simple uncompounded indivisible Divine Essence without body, parts, or passions. Have you not sometimes wondered why our sweet Lord Jesus was identified as the “everlasting Father” preceded by “The mighty God”? In Isa. 9:6? Or Rev. 1:8, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY.” In verse 17, “I am the FIRST and the LAST.” Are these not Christ’s own definitive terms of Himself? I see in this verse, that Christ is the “first” to the exclusion of all other first persons distinct from Him; further, He is the “last” to the exclusion of all third or last persons, distinct from Him. He is “THE ALMIGHTY” to the exclusion of all equal persons, for there can be only one ALMIGHTY. 

I see Him as the Lord Jesus Christ in exclusion to all other lords as distinct persons from Him. In these cases, I believe we are dealing with the Divine Essence in contrast with the Divine Operations wherein God is revealed by Christ. I am becoming convinced that failure to make these distinctions is the primary cause for much misunderstanding relative to these most important doctrines. Especially where the same words are used but with different understandings as to the meaning of the words used by both parties. Alas, I have spoken more than intended. I bought into the generated Christ idea and had to be saved from that as well. I once asked a noted PB minister in the Paris, AR. area (about 1989) what his thoughts were about eternal generation. He responded, “I believe it, but it was so far back it doesn’t matter.” I walked away in disbelief. If the Deity of Christ does not matter, what does? END THIRD LETTER TO PASTOR G. Editor’s note: This was to continue the setup for a brief exposition of Matt. 3:15-17 as requested 4.10.2024. 

Dear Bro. G. 

We are back from Welsh Tract Church and back to work here as usual. Having a few hours to myself this afternoon, I am blessed to attempt to continue our conversation regarding my views of Matt. 3:15-17. I understand you have received my redacted letter to a PB minister sent to you on the 11th. This being so, I am trusting you have some sense as to the importance of a clear and distinct difference between the Nature of our One Only Living and True God as compared to His OPERATIONAL REVELATIONS of Himself as set forth and held out in the Person and work of our Man-Christ Mediator; Wherein and by Whom we are blessed to discover all that is knowable about the INCOMPREHENSIBLE GOD of the Bible. On the strength of this assumption, I will proceed with further foundational information I am convinced is inseparably connected to a Biblical understanding of Matt. 3:15-17. In so doing, I will speak of three primary points of consideration, which are: 

I. THERE IS BUT ONE ONLY TRUE AND LIVING GOD, 

II. THE SPIRITUAL OPERATIONS OF THIS ONE GOD, and 

III. WHAT WE ARE TO UNDERSTAND BY GOD IN CHRIST.

Because time is precious and much is to be considered, I will limit myself today to points one and two. 

FIRST: THERE IS BUT ONE ONLY LIVING AND TRUE GOD: Amos 4:13, “For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and created the wind, and declared unto man what are his thoughts, and maketh morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, the Lord, the God of hosts is his name.” Exodus 34:14, “For thou shalt worship no other God; for the Lord whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.” Psalms 82:18, “That men may know, that thou whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.” Deuteronomy 6:4, “Here O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” Isaiah 44:8, “Is there a God besides me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any.” Isaiah 45:21-22, “There is no God else besides me, a just God and Savior, there is none besides me; look unto me, and be ye saved all ye ends of the earth, for I am God and there is none else.” 1 Cor. 8:4,6, “There is none other God but one…But to us, there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.” If the above scriptures prove anything, they all go to prove there is but one only living and true God. 

This leads us to the next point: 

SECOND: THE SPIRITUAL OPERATIONS OF THIS ONE GOD: Let us hear our sweet Jesus say: “God is a Spirit, and they that worship him, must worship in spirit and truth,” John 4:24. 2 Cor. 3:17, “Now the Lord is that Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.” Thus, we are to understand that where the Spirit (or Holy Ghost) is mentioned in the Scripture, the same one true and living God is displayed in His SPIRITUAL OPERATIONS, such as worship or liberty. We arrive at this from Peters's words to Ananias in Acts 5:3-4. “Why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost? Thou hast not lied unto men but unto God.” That the Holy Ghost is the true God, appears in the case of Mary’s conception recorded in Luke 4:35, “And the angel answered and said unto her, the HOLY GHOST shall overshadow thee; therefore also, that the holy thing, which shall be born of thee, shall be called the son of God.” Consider also, 1 Cor. 12:3, “No man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.” 

When God is declared to be Omnipresent as a pure simple and uncompounded Spirit, it is under the name “Spirit”. As in Psalm 139:7, “Whither shall I go from thy spirit? Or whither shall I flee from thy presence?” When God gave spiritual gifts to men, though the gifts were diverse, yet they all came “by the same spirit,” 1 Cor. 12: 4. Hence, we discover there is but one true and living God and that He is “a Spirit” as the Man Christ taught us. That God is undivided and uncompounded is evident from the above-referenced scriptures if they stood alone. 

Alas, they do not. For example: Mark 12:29, “And Jesus answered him the first of all the commandments is hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord.” Vs. 30, “And thou shalt love the Lord thy God, with all thy heart.” And Vs. 32, “And the scribes said unto him, well Master, thou hast said the truth; for there is one God, and there is none other but he.” Verse 34 informs us that the scribes answered discreetly by quoting Deut. 4:35. Bringing these two points to a close, I will make this statement for you to consider: Though the doctrine of God’s operational revelation as “three”, is fully revealed in scripture, there is nothing like the positive declarations we find in this point, with respect to the ONENESS OF THE DIVINE ESSENCE, aka, THE UNITY OF GOD. Surely, as the Man-Christ Mediator taught us, “The first of all the commandments is this, hear O Israel; THE LORD OUR GOD IS ONE LORD,” Mark 12:29. 

So much so, it is carried through the law, the prophets, and into the New Testament. This cannot be done by accident! Rather, by a Divine design. I submit the point of the first importance in the Doctrine of God, is His UNITY, and not how God is parted out and thereby divided. Hence, any system of Soteriology which implies either directly or indirectly by inference and implication, the existence of God as three beings (or persons), or parts of God, is a greater departure from the scriptural doctrine of God, than that which either obscures or denies His operational revelation as Three in One. 

It is my hope to be blessed to share with you an enlargement of the last sentence of the above paragraph in my next letter. I hope to show what we are to understand from scripture by GOD IN CHRIST, and what CHRIST IS; And in this process what the Father, Word (or Son), and Spirit are. Once we do that, I will offer my understanding of Matt. 3:15-17 as requested. Thank you for the opportunity to share with you what has fascinated me for some time and brought immeasurable joy to my heart. 

I shall remain, 

A debtor to Mercy if my heart does not deceive. 

Dan O’Dell, 
Weslaco, TX. 4.17.2024 

New Vernon, N. Y., June 1, 1840, 

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CORRESPONDENCE WITH PASTOR G. REGARDING THE DEITY OF CHRIST (ODell) 1/4

A collection of letters between myself and a Sovereign Grace Baptist Pastor beginning 4.02.2024 and ending 4.26.2024

HEZEKIAH WEST ON MISSIONS OCTOBER 1, 1838

[This is still as true today as it was in 1838.  Hezekiah West was a great preacher! - ed.]

FALSE CHARGES AGAINST OLD SCHOOL BAPTISTS (ELDER HEZEKIAH WEST) 1838

[A Great article by Elder Hezekiah West from Pennsylvania written to Elder Bennett the editor of the Primitive Baptist in Georgia - ed.]

HOME MISSIONS (FROM THE BAPTIST REPOSITORY) (BEEBE) 1834

“Of all the objects which can be presented to the Christian community, none is more urgent, or mere worthy of their regard or liberality, or demands more wrestling in prayer, or greater sacrifices, than those of our Home Mission Society.“ 

HOLY ALLIANCE (BEEBE) 1833

UNDER the above head, the editor of the Repository has informed his readers that there exists an alliance between God and his people and that God has laid aside that power which works without means and has devolved upon his people a course of duty, &c. 

GENERAL MEETINGS (BEEBE) 1834

THERE appears to be a disposition manifested by our Old School brethren in various parts of the country to encourage a mutual interchange of sentiment, to take sweet counsel together, to walk to the house of the Lord in company; but not to try experiments upon the Holy One, nor with the expectation of aiding the Lord in the conversion of sinners.

FRUITS OF THE REVIVAL (BEEBE) 1858

[Have things changed much since Beebe's time? ed.]

FLESH AND SPIRITS (BEEBE) 1880

The scriptures speak of all the human family as of one common earthy origin. All are and were created in the first man Adam, of whom Paul testifies that he is of the earth, earthy; also that he was made a living soul, that he was not spiritual, (in the sense in which the second Adam, which is the Lord from heaven, is,) but he was natural. 

A TRUE BAPTIST WHO SUFFERED FOR HIS PRECIOUS LORD (Santamaria)

[We obtained this story from the Christian History Institute. We do not think much needs to be said about what Christ did in the life of this man - ed.] 

THE TIME TO FAVOR ZION (BEEBE) 1858

THE TIME TO FAVOR ZION. We have no reason to doubt that every incident that God in his holy providence allows to transpire, however oppositely designed by the wrath of men, or malice of devils, must ultimately, under the gracious hand of God, result in favor of Zion.

THEY LAVISH GOLD (BEEBE) 1834

Isaiah xlvi. 6-8. How strikingly the prophet of the Lord portrays the corruption and idolatry of the present age in giving us an account of the abominations of the Hebrew nation.

THE TRUE POSITION OF THE CHURCH

A correspondent in our last number, Page 171, desires us to state what is the true position of the church in the trying circumstances of our nation. 

THE TWO HORNS, &C.

We are highly gratified with the favorable notice Brother J. Clark has taken, in his communication, page 12, of Brother Trott's proposals to re-publish Elder Parker's “Third Dose,” with structures on the objectionable parts of the same, and we sincerely hope brother Trott may be sustained in the undertaking by a liberal patronage. 

QUERY ON THE TEMPLE OF GOD (BEEBE0 1881

“If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.”

"BUT PEACE SHALL BE UPON ISRAEL" (BEEBE) 1860

Dear Brother Beebe: I do not like to trouble you too much, but it seems so impressed on my mind that I cannot well avoid it; to ask your views on Psa. cxxv. 5, particularly on the latter clause, “but peace shall be upon Israel.” Penningtonville, Pa., Dec. 10, 1860. 

BROTHER E.D. TURNER'S LETTER ON MINISTERIAL SUPPORT (BEEBE) 1858

On two points in Brother Turner’s letter, we wish to offer a few remarks, not by way of controversy, for with the general sentiments of his letter we think we are agreed, and probably on every point, when we fully understand each other.

BORN OF THE WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT: JOHN 3.5 (BEEBE) 1867

In our last issue, sister L. Fewell asked for our opinion as to the meaning of these words - whether the words, born of water, refer to baptism or to the action of the Holy Spirit.

BE YE SEPARATE (BEEBE) 1835

CAN we consistently hold with the hart and run with the hound?

BIBLE DEFINITION OF "GOSPEL" (BEEBE) 1846

Like so many Bible terms, the word GOSPEL has been given various definitions contrary to its original and proper meaning. 

BENEVOLENT EFFORTS 3 (BEEBE) 1836

“He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbor cometh and searcheth him.” - Solomon. We now come to an examination of the subject of Missions and Tracts.

ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION (GILBERT BEEBE)1880

[This in our opinion is the finest article ever written on the doctrine of Absolute Predestination - ed]

DIRKES ON THE SEED 1...

[ed. this is a reprint from Banner of Hope 3:3, August 2009]

ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION #4 (TROTT) 1834

Another objection urged against the doctrine of predestination is that it would involve the notion of the fatalists and destroy the free agency of man and consequently his accountability. 

ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION #3 (TROTT) 1834

 

Brother Beebe: – I will now notice some of the objections, which are made to the doctrine under consideration. 

ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION #2 (TROTT)1834

[This is proof that from the very beginning Old School Baptists believed in "absolute predestination" - ed]

WATCH THIS RIDICULOUS TANK STUNT AT MEN'S CONFERENCE WHERE MARK DRISCOLL GOT KICKED OFF STAGE

[Whatever Bebee spoke about in his day pales in comparison to what is going on today!  Yet this is the logical road Arminianism must take - ed]

ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION #1 (TROTT) 1832

THIS sentiment as expressed in the Prospectus of the “Signs of the Times,” has called forth so much invective from some, and so much ridicule from others of the popular Baptists of this region that one would conclude some strange and absurd idea had been advanced;

ARMINIAN PENTECOSTALISM GONE WILD

 
[This is the natural result of Arminian principles taken to the limit (if there is one) we thank the website The Dissenter - ed.]

 (https://disntr.com/2024/04/15/mark-driscoll-kicked-off-stage-for-calling-out-male-stripper-dancing-on-a-pole-at-mens-conference/)

THE ATONEMENT (BEEBE) 1833

PERHAPS among all the rich displays of the adorable Godhead which shine forth with refulgent brightness in the works of creation, providence, and grace, none can be found to outshine in splendor, or outweigh in importance, that which develops the purpose and grace of God in causing his sword to awake against the Man that is his Fellow, and which sets forth the atonement made by our Lord Jesus Christ for his people. 

BEEBS'S LAST THOUGHTS ON ASSOCIATIONS - ARE THEY FROM HEAVEN OR OF MEN? (1881)

DEAR BROTHER BEEBE: – Brother F. M. Turner, of Tuscaloosa, wishes me to ask you to give through the SIGNS the best views you have upon associations. The main point upon which he wants information is, Is there any spiritual authority for the present system of organized associations, as practiced by the Old School or Primitive Baptists? Did they originate with the ancient apostolic churches, or with and among Catholics? We want to know exactly what kind of an association is scriptural, or of divine authority. By writing on the above subject at your earliest convenience, you will greatly oblige at least two anxious inquirers. Yours in fellowship, H. J. RED

ASSOCIATIONS: REMARKS ON ELDER BLAKESLEE'S LETTER (BEEBE) 1863

It is not our desire or intention, either by special or common pleadings, to encourage a controversy on the subject of Associations, as, to our mind, there are many other subjects at this peculiarly trying time of vastly greater importance to the peace, comfort, and edification of the people of God, which claim our columns. Especially should we regret to enter the list with a veteran of the cross whom we so highly esteem as our Brother Blakeslee. 

ASSOCIATIONS IN REPLY TO BROTHER ASMUS INQUIRY (BEEBE) 1863

What is an association? we answer The word signifies a connection formed of persons or things. When applied to Christians, in a religious sense, we understand it to signify a social band of the disciples of Christ in union, harmony, intimately organized on gospel principles, according to the laws of Christ, for mutual edification, in sweet communion and fellowship one with another.

AS MANY AS...(ELDER MIKAL SMITH)

In our English language, we have what we call a "quantifier". This is a word or phrase that expresses a specific quantity. For instance, if I said "the ones hired as janitors, cleaned."

SOT: ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION 3...

In our last number we promised to notice the request of brother Burson, who desired our views on the subject of the absolute predestination of all things. We have frequently given our views on this subject, and still feel willing to give such views as we have on this and all other scriptural subjects.

ASSAULT AND DEFENSE (BEEBE) 1836

[What do Old School Baptists think of the Philadelphia Confession of Faith? ed]

A SHORT SERMON ON WINE (BEEBE) 1840

[This is for all the churches or people who think that Welsh's Grape Juice is better than living wine - ed]

SOT: ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION 2...

We are pleased with the communications of our esteemed brother Trott, on this all-important subject; and we do hope that our readers will faithfully examine all his numbers, comparing them with the infallible standard, the bible, with unbiased minds, open for the reception of truth. 

“BAPTIST CONFESSION OF FAITH” (BEEBE) 1847 (NEW HAMPSHIRE CONFESSION OF FAITH)

[Among the many great articles the Lord enabled Beebe to write, this one is among the greatest.  "In 1833, Baptists in the United States agreed upon a confession of faith around which they could organize a missionary society under the Triennial Convention. The New Hampshire Confession of Faith was drawn up by the Rev. John Newton Brown of New Hampshire and was adopted by the New Hampshire Baptist Convention." This is quoted from a wikisource that cites Wikipedia, but it has since been removed from Wikipedia. But we have little doubt that the Triennial Convention believed this confession and held to it. The Editor's Addendum at the end of this article will confirm this view. - ed.]

ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION OF ALL THINGS 1

[This is the official position of The Welsh Tract Church and this website]

On this important part of the doctrine of Christ, we wish to be well understood, as we considered it a fundamental part of the faith of the Gospel. In the absence of this doctrine we can have no confidence in the predictions of the word of God.

THE ABSOLUTE PREDESTINATION OF ALL THINGS (BEEBE)

 

BAPTISM - REBAPTISM 1856 (BEEBE)

Elder G. Beebe: - Suppose a member of the Missionary Baptist church, of undoubted piety, and sincerity in his attachment to your church, were to apply for admission, would you receive him, without rebaptizing him? What should an individual do who can have no fellowship with the various (so-called) benevolent enterprises of the day, and who still believes that the Old School Baptists have gone into error in reference to predestination, &c., and that they so hold and teach these doctrines as to produce bad practical results, supposing him to believe that salvation is whole of God, and that good works do not procure salvation, but ought to be constantly required of church members as a test of Christian character; and an evidence and the chief evidence, of being under grace? These questions are propounded in all honesty and sincerity, and with the purest motives, if a constant and intense desire to see the Baptist church what it has been, constitutes such motives; and I hope you will find it convenient and agreeable to answer them in your next issue of the SIGNS OF THE TIMES, and in so doing you will gratify one who has been for some time burdened with a sense of the terrible corruptions existing in the Christian world. 

Tyro, Jan. 21, 1856, J.I. Power

A SWEET SAVOR OF CHRIST (BEEBE) 1839

BROTHER BEEBE: - Please give your views on 2 Cor. 2.15; and be particular on the last clause, in showing how we are a sweet savor of Christ in them that perish; of death unto death, &c., or otherwise set brother Trott at it. Respectfully yours, 

REED BURRITT

BAPTISM 2 (BEEBE) 1868

Elder Beebe: - Is it according to the order of the gospel for an Old Baptist Church to receive as members those who have been baptized by any other denomination of religionists, not recognized by them as the church of Christ, without baptizing them in the fellowship of the Old Order of Baptists? Your views on the above will oblige 

An Inquirer After Truth. 

BAPTISM (BEEBE) 1863

Brother Beebe: - The Signs of the Times still continue to come as a welcome messenger to us, and we wish to have them continue to come as long as we can raise the money to pay for them. In your last you requested each subscriber to try to procure at least one additional subscriber, and I have done so. You will find the money enclosed, etc. Brother Beebe, I am going to trouble you for your opinion. I will name the circumstances: We had two Baptist preachers here last spring, and there are five or six Baptist members here - but they are not organized in a church - and there were one or two who wished to be baptized, but the members, under present circumstances, did not wish to go into a constitution. Now, would it have been right or wrong for one of those preachers to have baptized those persons, if they had given him a satisfactory evidence of their hope in Christ? I would like to have your opinion on the subject. 

William H. Smith